but these are tough issues. and the suggestion that we can gloss over them is wrong. just before he wrapped up his speech, the president went off script once more and recognized that voices like medea benjamin s cannot be ignored. our victory against terrorism won t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship. or a statue being pulled to the ground. victory will be measured in parents taking their kids to school. immigrants coming to our shores. fans taking in a ball game. a veteran starting a business. a bustling city street. a citizen shouting her concerns at a president. joining me at table is pardiss kebriaei, senior attorney at the center of constitutional rights who represents guantanamo detainees. let s welcome back the
you being able to speak, but also you listening. and me being able to speak. [ applause ] well, the president obviously didn t let it throw him. however, he ended a very strong speech, i think, on a powerful note about what victory in a war on terrorism would actually look like. he even managed to tie in, as i said, that woman who was interrupting him. she s from code pink. let s take a listen. our victory against terrorism won t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship. or a statue being pulled to the ground. victory will be measured in parents taking their kids to school. immigrants coming to our shores. fans taking in a ball game. a veteran starting a business. a bustling city street. a citizen shouting her concerns at a president.
and the suggestion that we can gloss over them is wrong. just before he wrapped up his speech, the president went off script once more and recognized that voices like medea benjamin s cannot be ignored. our victory against terrorism won t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship. or a statue being pulled to the ground. victory will be measured in parents taking their kids to school, immigrants coming to our shores, fans taking in a ball game, a veteran starting a business, a bustling city street, a citizen shouting her concerns at a president. joining me at table is
we agonize over this. we have to deal with it. we have to confront it, but we do agonize. i want to show how the woman who spoke in the middle of the president s speech found her way into his conclusion toward the end when he was describing what victory will look like in this kind of war. our victory against terrorism won t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship or a statue being pulled to the ground. victory will be measured in this parents taking their kids to school. immigrants coming to our shores. fans taking in a ball game. a veteran starting a business. a bustling city street. a citizen shouting her concerns at a president. that is the real test of freedom. absolutely. and when he was saying that, i kept just thinking, you know,
we agonize over this. we have to deal with it. we have to confront it, but we do agonize. i want to show how the woman who spoke in the middle of the president s speech found her way into his conclusion toward the end when he was describing what victory will look like in this kind of war. our victory against terrorism won t be measured in a surrender ceremony at a battleship or a statue being pulled to the ground. victory will be measured in this parents taking their kids to school. immigrants coming to our shores. fans taking in a ball game. a veteran starting a business. a bustling city street. a citizen shouting her concerns at a president. that is the real test of freedom. absolutely. and when he was saying that, i kept just thinking, you know,