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immediate response, a radio interview that did not press him on the allegations laid out in the superseding indictment from the department of justice. i ll let you listen to donald trump s response to it. take a listen. they went after two fine employees yesterday. fine people, and i don t think they think the tapes were taken. i don t think we would have had to give it. i m not sure we would have had to give it. these were security tapes. i doubt, if we wanted to fight that, i doubt we would have had to give it. regardless, we gave it. two things, one, donald trump in that interview did not outright deny the allegations that are laid out in the indictment, but number two he referred to the two very fine people, those were his two staff members named as codefendants, alleged coconspirators. for donald trump, the save
it didn t come last week, it s coming soon. do you think with the superseding indictments this is how jack smith will play ball, maybe the indictment will come, and maybe a superseding indictment to that indictment will come as well. considering this time line crunch they have with the former president running for reelection. i was a federal prosecutor for a long time. you don t do superseding indictments because you hope to have your case wrapped up in one charging indictment. present it to the grand jury and have the grand jury vote on it. what happened in mar-a-lago, and this is conjecture, they had another piece o. case dangling out there, and they probably very much hoped that mr. de oliveira would be a witness and not a defendant. when fbi agents sat down with him in his home in january of this year, he had an option, which was to tell the truth.
i ll be smelling fresh all day long. [sniffs] still fresh. still fresh! get 6 times longer-lasting freshness, plus odor protection with downy unstopables. welcome back. as we continue our coverage of jack smith s surprise superseding indictment in the mar-a-lago classified documents case, we are also closely watching for a potential third indictment against former president donald trump in the special counsel s other probe in the election interference. i want to bring in msnbc contributor, and former u.s. attorney, and senior fbi official chuck rosen. you re exactly the guy i wanted to talk to yesterday as this was all breaking. i want to ask you about the strategy from the special counsel. why they would choose to break this up into multiple parts. i know this happens sometimes
in a 60-page supersedeing timt, superseding indictment. i m going to ask our legal experts what it could prove about donald trump s intent here. keyword there, and who else, by the way, was involved. what we know about the third and newest defendant in jack smith s indictment, and i want to remind you of this interview the former president did on fox news last month after jack smith s initial indictment accused him of holding on to a top secret war plan related to attacking iran, and showing it to two writers working on mark meadows book at his bedminster golf club. listen to this. there was no document. that was a massive amount of papers and everything else, talking about iran and other things and it may have been held up. that was not a document. i didn t have a document per se. there was nothing to declassify. newspaper stories, magazine stories and articles! so according to this superseding