nine years complete withdrawal is in the white house s assessment, is this a victory for the united states and if i could bundle up just if you could answer that, then follow up. i think one of the more poignant moments in the secure video conference downstairs was when president obama congratulated prime minister maliki and the people of iraq for getting to this momentous moment. and importantly when prime minister maliki congratulated president obama an our troops an our diplomats for all they ve done. so when the president laid out a vision for the future of iraq in february 2009 down in camp lejeune, many of you were there, he said what we are looking for is an iraq that s secure, stable an self-reliant and that s exactly what we got here. there is no question this is a success. specifically, long discussions over the issue of immunity. had that issue been resolved, would the president have preferred to have had trainers, u.s. trainers, u.s. troops remain there as