so they are part of the same kinship they are. but you see, this is an anything that we can look at and say, oh, let them do their thing. this is about raw power going after the map of europe. i know we are seeing for the first time since world war ii russian tanks on the plains of europe. and they will not stop here. they will continue to go. so the question is, you know, it is vladimir putin holding back? is he doing the 1100 military installations not affecting the infrastructure because he wants to occupy and use the infrastructure? and if he intentionally going a little slower, but is he now saying, these people are stronger than i thought. now i m going to hit civilians? we will see. jesse: of course they have screwed up supply lawns and the strategy, because the russians are usually sloppy and slow, but brutal, katie. then i think we gave the ukrainians a bunch of stingers for the very first time and our javelins are having some effect.