money into disrupting the political system. leo linbeck is creator of the anti-incumbent superpac and joins me now. leo, good to have you here. really interesting, saying we know we ve been tallying up from both sides about what they know about the superpac money out there. you ve given $1 million of your own money and until recently hadn t voted in a primary election. why was this appealing to you? why did you want to get involved and do this? thomas, the root of the problem in congress is the cycle of incumbency. there s nothing wrong with incumbents or incumbency per se. congressmen should have to compete for their seat every time. the only place you can have that competition in 85% of the districts is in the primary. so we focus on creating competition in the primary and it s both parties. right? both parties have been responsible for this massive centralization of power in