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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171008:10:45:00

follow the law. reporter: defense attorney ryan insisted that markus karma was guilty of nothing more than protecting his family. this is your house. you defend it within your house as you choose to defend it. reporter: by the time the defense rested, those closest to diren dede thought that markus kaarma s lawyers had redefined what this case was about. who diren was kind of got lost in all of this, didn t it? uh-huh. a lot of the stuff that i heard and read made him sound like some sort of foreigner who just came here to stir the pot and make trouble. and commit crimes? right. yeah. reporter: but to prosecutors andrew paul and jennifer clark, the real criminal in this case was markus kaarma, who was, plain and simple, a murderer. the fact is that the defendant was angry and vengeful. he knew that it was a kid coming in his garage. he has his 12-gauge in his hand, and he waits.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171008:10:33:00

i mean, did you think to yourself, oh, my god, we didn t tell him how dangerous it could be. but no one knew. no one would be like, hey, don t walk into that garage. you never know if someone is going to shoot you. reporter: robby told police diren had done it before but never taken cash or valuable property. he wasn t a criminal. he was, like, a kid. he was a kid trying to have fun and fit in the group doing what the other guys do, trying to be part of them. reporter: was it really that innocent? true or false. diren was committing a crime. he was. entering somebody else s home, even their garage, that s a crime? yes. even if the door s open? yep. reporter: and if kaarma s life was threatened, he had the right to shoot, didn t he? but as police went over kaarma s story about what happened just before the confrontation, something stood out.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20171008:10:05:00

he was just such a terrific kid. you could see that right off the bat. and he called you mom and dad? he did. he really became our son. there s no doubt about it. reporter: but diren was more than just a fun kid. he was engaged in the world. this was not your typical american teenager who just kind of wants to talk about, you know, sports stars and, you know, maybe the latest fashion and, you know no, not at all. no. it s like, so what do you think about the situation in the ukraine? reporter: by the end of the school year in 2014, diren had a solid circle of friends. he was tightest with another exchange student. this one from ecuador. robby pazmino. we had so many things in common. the same personality with the same wishes and dreams. they were a package deal. you see one, you re gonna see the other? oh, yeah. reporter: saturday, april 26,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170129:11:04:00

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170129:11:46:00

yeah. reporter: but to prosecutors andrew paul and jennifer clark, the real criminal in this case was markus kaarma, who was, plain and simple, a murderer. the fact is that the defendant was angry and vengeful. he knew that it was a kid coming in his garage. he has his 12-gauge in his hand, and he waits. reporter: to counter the defense s suggestion that diren was part of some ring of thieves targeting markus kaarma, investigators tracked down the teens who had hit kaarma s garage, the ones who took the cash, credit cards and he had a bong and a jar of weed and some alcohol. did you know a man named diren dede? not personally, no. to the best of your knowledge, was he involved in a

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