that s outside the normal channel to get something for donald trump? it is the way a secretive and sometimes criminal organization works. the guy at the top doesn t tell you to do what s wrong. he goes, you talk to tony. he knows what i need to get done. as you say it s a consciousness of guilty that sondland is willing to nail donald trump for which is a fascinating development. anyone who said you seen it all before, you haven t seen this. what they do with it is the open question. thank you for being here. ahead, we ll break down other key impeachment points and what they reveal and a monumental self-own by lindsey graham. we ll show you with the receipts and a programming note. there s so much impeachment news that we have a new sunday night special, 9:00 p.m. eastern. covering so much of the historic action. two political investigations he believe would help his re-election campaign. was a basic quid pro quo.
when nationl news outlets scream about campus craziness, they re just making a bad situation worse. it s important to let students be students and learn from their mistakes and try to guide them in the right direction rather than just making fun of them and dunking on them. anyway, you can check out my full conversation with the dean on our reliable sources podcast. we talked about it in great depth and it s up on reliablesources.com. that s where our media coverage continues all the time. you can sign up for our nightly newsletter there as well. it comes out six days a week, totally free, wrapping up all the world s media news. a quick reminder here, the cnn coverage of what is a white house in crisis continues here at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. chris cuomo is anchoring this sunday night special, white house in crisis, the impeachment inquiry. we ll see you right back here this time next week.
sunday night special. ny s melissa murray. and from the new york times magazine emily, an author and fellow at yale law school. thank you to all of you for being a part of us. i want to start here at the table. emily, what does it mean procedurally now that you have had the house go forward? it means that we have this new set of rules. and the most important part of these rules is that we will have these public hearings. we will all get to hear and assess for ourselves what these witnesses have to say, what their credibility is like and the president will have lawyers present whoever he wants who can cross examine those witnesses. and this is the classic way in which we try to establish the truth in a dispute in court in this country. that s exactly right. and i think again the key question here is this is a set of proceedings for the people. so the people will now have the
our sunday night special. eleanor, michael. we ll call you o.g. as our in-house historian. i appreciate both of you. thank you so much. thank you. we have a lot more ahead, including other special guests and an exclusive interview with a federal judge. we have it as part of this special, as well as a senator who actually cast one of these votes. then we will look at how the house might write these exact articles of impeachment. and we will preview what a trial of a president in this case a trial of donald trump could look like in the senate, drawing on the president and what lawmakers are saying now in this wild news environment. you are watching an msnbc special. trump and ukraine impeachment crisis. granted. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.
you guys would get outraged by it. we begin with our panel for trump and ukraine with presidential historian john m c meachum. i joined joined by eugene robinson. and melissa murray who clerked for judge sotomayor. thanks for being a part of our special, guys. i start with you, gene, in washington. they didn t need one more two by four to the head at the white house, but they certainly got it with a second whistleblower. your interpretation? well, first of all, the first whistleblower was enough, right? and the first whistleblower story, it was completely supported by the information later released by the white house about what president trump was doing with ukraine. and it was that revelation that set this in motion and that sort