patients outdoors, active and living a happy lifestyle. it is not about avoiding that. but about being sun smart. avoiding midday sun exposure when you can. using sun protection. applying enough of it. wearing a hat and physical protection when you can. you can do those things and really enjoy the time out doors. i go on vacation once a year and come back and i m same color i started out with. it is doable. hard but doalable. we see skin cancer every day. this can be life-threatening and disfiguring besides premature aging. rick: little kids reapplying how often do you need to reapply on kids. every two hours if you re swimming or sweating it off. get great sun protective clothing as well. try to stay in the shade if you can. rick: dr. doris day, professor of dermatology at nyu medical center. thanks for having me. rick: martha, good advice up here. martha: certainly is. rick, thank you. so the governor says, from