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serious. that very gloomy and presidential look that they are both trying to affect. but, oh my goodness, as they continue to stand at the podium, i think many people in america, in fact, the majority, almost certainly, will watch this debate will be wondering what on earth is going on. they turned to leave, and at that stage, cnn catch to a wider shot as the president and former president trump leaves the stage. they don t go close to each other. joe biden is there, and there are family members with him on the stage. but the whole thing has been the most rambling, peculiar affair. someone in a focus group, quite early on in the course of the debate said it was a choice between the circus or the nursing home. and there has been a feeling among many people watching that, number one, the questions that were asked were not answered, but number two, this is probably the biggest story of the night, president biden did not look presidential. he did not hit home with the points that

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