40,000. we watched iran enter our play was air operations alone which is not effective. we ve seen the results. so i think at this point we shore up the sunni tribes willing to fight against isis and provide support in terms of intelligence and ground forces provided that we support our ground forces. sprinkling a few isn t going to be enough because we know what happens, would happen if one of our soldiers or sailors, airmen or marines are captured. burned alive in a cage. you need sufficients for, medical. as many as 10,000 if e are going to degrade and destroy isis. stand by congressman. more to discuss. we re only just beginning with congressman ryan zincy. he s a former navy s.e.a.l. served in iraq. he s a member of the armed services committee. much more when we come back.