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rogers. i think you agree with me on this point, even if iger were there, i don t care hofs there, right? the greatest ceo ever, they all would have been blindsided by the collapse of the netflix model. i mean, the streaming model that everybody was betting on for years, except i will say comcast, that everybody was throwing big money in for years just collapsed. so i m wondering, was this move was it a little early? was it unfair? well, it s a great question, joe, because since iger s left, the traditional broadcast and cable business has gotten a lot tougher. the that side of the business is not getting easier, but as you say, the streaming model, which disney first came out of the box with disney+, really, really strong showing all kinds of subscriber growth. it had the market really

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