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CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell January 3, 2022 19:17:15
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CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell January 3, 2022 19:21:00

how will he by interested there i was investigating this matter, is to what exactly he was trying to ivanka during those conversations, and what trump knew in advance about the attacks. i think they would have to show is that trump not only knew this attack was going on and did nothing in the face of the attack, but that he actually took an active step to aid the scheme in some way. and that would involve taking a look at his words and actions and really learning from the sort of people you were just talking about, is exactly what he knew and what his intent was. and gloria, you reconcile what we re learning from the vice chair cheney and that gem about firsthand knowledge about ivanka walking in at least twice to get her father to do something, juxtapose that to 72% of republicans believe the president little to no role or bears little to no responsibility for the january 6 attack. it was clear to ivanka

CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell January 3, 2022 19:22:00

trump that day who had con some control and it was clear to don jr., and mark meadows text who had some control that day. here is the question. whether or not you believe that donald trump provoked the attack, and most of his loyal supporters would say of course he didn t provoke the attack. but the committee is talking about now is what did he do, if anything, to stop the attack on democracy, to stop the attack on the capitol, once he saw the violence that was being perpetrated. i think they would like to prove to the american public that not only did he provoke it and participate in it, and maybe they ll use the money chain to do that, but also that when, as president of the united states, he saw the u.s. capitol under attack, he did nothing and in fact perhaps he was even applauding it because he saw it as people supporting his point of view, that the election was stolen.

CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell January 3, 2022 19:23:00

so, why did it take 187 minutes, why was his daughter unable to have him go out immediately or quickly and say you ve got to stop this? we don t know the answers to those questions because we don t know yet when ivanka say went in there and what he said to her. we don t know that yet. yeah, i mean and let s not forget as we re pointing out, the fox hosts knew that day and were trying to get ahold of the president as you say, his children knew, that day people knew what they saw with their own eyes and what was happening. and so i just circle back, ronaldo, i understand your distinguishing between an action and inaction, but isn t failing to render aid in the midst of a grievous attack, isn t that a crime? usually not. it could be in a certain circumstance where you have a specific duty to do so and that is part of a scheme. for example, if we re all

CNN CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell January 3, 2022 19:20:00

was appalling. and if they do have evidence, as liz cheney said, of president trump s dereliction of duty as roughly 140 police officers were being beaten, some of them within an inch of their life, we would remember the horrible image of officer hodges being crushed in that turnstile. that is just one example. there are more than a hundred officers while they claim that president trump was standing by, you know, doing nothing for hours, is that criminal, would that warrant criminal charges? i think it certainly is enough to prove a dereliction of duty beyond a reasonable doubt. but of course that is not what the relevant criminal charge would be. and so my focus coming from a criminal law perspective would be on what his action was. not his inaction. because his inaction, i don t think anyone could argue with that. but the question is what exactly was he doing. and i know in that same interview liz cheney talked about how trump was on the phone with senators, trying to urge them t

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