cevallos great to have you with us on this monday morning. lefkow let s talk about mick mulvaney and the implications he finds himself and what are the implications of the federal lawsuit and what it might mean for others like john bolton and former deputy security adviser as well as charles kupperman. first this is not a traditional lawsuit where we re accustomed and sues for money, it names donald trump nominally as a defendant but it brings the pears together to declare what everyone s rights and duties are. i think it is a smart move by mulvaney because he is caught in the middle between the executive branch telling him not to appear and congress, who is telling him, the legislative branch, that he must appear. subpoenaing him. and he doesn t want to be personally responsible and end up in criminal contempt. so a wise move is asking the court, hey, decide this issue for me, tell me who s right, is
build the case. i m for subpoenaing him. mueller moted that investigations of sitting presidents are permitted to preserve evidence while memories are fresh and documents available. do you believe he was preserving that evidence of those documents for congress to open formally an impeachment inquiry? i believe he was preserving it to open up any inquiry when the president leaves office. the constitution says you can t go after the president when he s in office because the president has many duties. there s nothing to say the president may not face consequences when he leaves office. that s my sense of what mueller meant. i also think he wants congress to do something. one thing we can do decisively is have a censure resolution that could get the votes in the house and the senate and could pass. there s only one president, andrew jackson that s ever been censured. that will be a big statement that what the president did was
michael cohen will not testify next month because threats for rudy giuliani and for michael cohen s family, but they said he will testify, and some people are talking about subpoenaing him. we will speak to a top democrat on that committee. we will begin with even bigger breaking news. the shut down starts with major questions involving now the democratic party s strategy in all of this. nancy pelosi said he will have to cancel the state of the union if the government is still shut down. that came hours after house democrats offered the president everything he wanted financially. $5.7 billion to spend on border security if he reopened the government, which of course is not happening. the president said this afternoon this shut down will go on for awhile. none of the money they offered
likelihood, especially when you have democratic opposition to this where they can drag their feet a bit in these hearings with back and forth, with the justice department in negotiations and whether they re going to make deputy attorney general rod rosenstein available for these kind of hearings. subpoenaing him, versus subpoenaing a former government official is a much more complicated process. if he doesn t want to testify, i think it s a lot harder for them to force his appearance moving, you know, in the next essentially three weeks before they re out for the year. jay and susan, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. jay newton small, and susan paige. president trump s border issues. he s pushing congress to fund the wall and threatening to shut down the whole border with mexico, but can he actually get any of that done? you re watching msnbc live. gimme two minutes. and i ll tell you some important things to know about medicare. first, it doesn t pay for everything. say t
investigation, if mr. mueller wants to ever possibly bring charges against the president, subpoenaing him to a grand jury to testify is a dangerous move it could risk the whole investigation and any subsequent prosecution, because if you force someone to testify under subpoena, and then you use that evidence to then prosecute them, you force them to give evidence against themself and that s a constitutional violation. so generally prosecutors don t subpoena people that they think they may bring charges against in the future. huh, interesting. katie, the list of questions for robert mueller, what do you have for the president, it was leaked this week. it includes five questions about michael flynn. 21 on the former firing of former fbi director james comey. got nine questions about jeff sessions. 14 about potential coordination with russia. so you add it up, where do you think mueller is going with these questions? you can tell that there s obviously a pretty wide net in terms of