here s what trump said to that. why not hand them over then? i had boxes. i want to go through the boxes and get my personal things out. i don t want to hand that over to nara yet. i was busy, as you have sort of seen. reporter: he has the boxes, he is saying, he knew he had them, he is saying that. he wanted to see them, wanted them moved and he wasn t ready to respond to the subpoena n immediately by the sed line. that is part of the allegations charge inside this case, that he knowingly retained box and tried to obstruct the investigation, refusing to hand them over/under the subpoena demands. so that all is going very likely part of this case. another thing trump says that is quite interesting is that he says he wanted to determine what was personal versus not personal. that s supposed to be done well before this period of time after before he is leaving the white house. the special counsel has the