the future because now this precedent has already been set and broken and it s a real problem. okay, so rebecca, there is an unnamed company owned by an unknown foreign government now suggesting to take its subpoena battle with what is believed to be the special counsel all the way to the supreme court. is the supreme court under any legal obligation to step into this fight? is that a guarantee that the supreme court would take this case on? no, absolutely not, and my guess is they won t, or at least won t do it immediately. the company has been ordered to either comply with the subpoena or pay $5,000 a week as a penalty. now, i don t know what sovereign wealth fund this is, but most sovereign wealth funds can probably afford $5,000 a week for some time, so i doubt this is something the supreme court is going to jump in on, and if they did, frankly they might be resolving some nerdy legal details about the sovereign immunity rather than anything that goes really to the heart of
the president did not direct limb to stop the investigation. even if the president isn t directing him, you still feel the same way, that, as you said, it was circumstantial evidence. exactly. well, alex, think about it. he didn t tell comey stop prosecuting or stop looking at michael flynn. what s happened with the mueller investigation, an obstruction of justice investigation. he doesn t tell whittaker stop prosecuting michael cohen. well, that ship has sailed. we know michael cohen already pled guilty and has been sentenced. he is telling whittaker, why aren t you controlling them more? and this is why it is problematic for donald trump? there is an unnamed company owned by an unknown foreign government that is now requesting to take its subpoena battle with the special counsel to the supreme court. what is the likelihood in your mind that the supreme court steps into this fight? let s make sure we are clear about this. we do not know that this involved robert mueller and hi
about, about potentially subpoenaing the president, i think it s a very live question. i don t know this, i just know what s been reported. harris: what do you mean live question? there is a subpoena battle, a grand jury subpoena battle, that is playing out right now in the federal court in d.c. it s sealed. i don t have direct knowledge of it. on friday afternoon, they shut down the entire fifth floor of the courthouse to hear arguments in that case. at least one former prosecutor has a speculate on the record that it could be over a subpoena of the president himself. so it s all under seal, but when you think there s already been high-ranking officials that have cooperated. harris: let me step in, there. i want to visit the situation, if we can, of general michael flynn. and the claims by some on the right, and those who support him, particularly, that he was
did know. on the flip side, though, these are all incidents that we ve already reported on, knew about. it s not like something outside the realm of anybody s mind. certainly his lawyers would have seen them coming. i think they should have. in his lawyer s minds and they are right, mueller already knows the answers to these questions. usually you wouldn t ask these kind of questions hoping to get information. company be in a tough spot. remember he s still got that was the collusion questions. he still has the obstruction issue and mueller hasn t agreed to questions on that. that s where we may see a subpoena battle. do you think mueller is waiting to make any big moves until after he got the president s questions back so that his lawyers couldn t perhaps craft answers around new indictments. could be. one of the thing targets to do. what s out there, what s known, let s bob and weave. now that he has the answers in hands he may be ready to take
and if matt whittaker might impact the timing of special counsel s investigation. jeff, i want to go to you now. i spoke with the president s attorney, rudy giuliani, earlier this week after they submitted written answers to the questions that mueller had and in our conversation he said he thinks if this were to go to a subpoena battle, which he doesn t think it will, that he doesn t think mueller would win that fight. what do you make of that? do you think this will lead to a showdown, a subpoena? the problem is if mueller does subpoena trump and it may have happened already and that litigation has been happening. it will delay the whole investigati investigation. nixon didn t prevail at the supreme court and even though rudy giuliani appears to be very confident that he would, that s not necessarily going to follow. if mueller doesn t subpoena him, he has information now from trump and to take off on what