nargeolet, experienced deepwater diver known as mr. titanic for the amount of dives he made to the ship. when he told me he was going back out and i saw him in may a really honest didn t think twice about it. i told him to have fun and i will see you in july. the implosion of the titan, underscoring the controversial design of the deepwater sub and the materials, carbon fiber and titanium. and it had reached the titanic before but the ocean at those depths? unforgiving. this device was built much different than most deep diving submersibles that instead of using a sphere which is very strong under pressure, they instead used two hemispheres on each and and then a cylinder in between made out of carbon fiber and it looks like it was that portion made out of carbon fiber that failed. the world of deepwater submersibles, small, very close and highly specialized.
you have a very small community of people who get involved in the submersibles produce a very high price tag to get involved in that game and it leads a lot of people out. when you start looking at the fact that operate in different countries, there are regulations in the bahamas different than the standards the titan was up next too. there is a degree to which it is the wild west. but you have a lot of people scrutinizing it within this community. so they try to prevent people from becoming yahoos. at that moment you would have to think everyone is going to pause, look, think about safety protocols and try to figure out what exactly caused the titan to fail. neil: tobin. allow the classic right now the company about the safety or the risks of this. keep in mind ocean gate cofounder ceo stockton rash was along those who lost her license tragedy. fellow cofounder joins us right
of issues in united states with mike tobin on top of it all in st. john s, canada. neil, the big development is the polar prints the ship from which the titan was launched is here in the port of st. john s. you can see it over my left shoulder but came here this morning and docked. so for the information we are getting is no personnel was being allowed off the ship. no communication you ve got to be assumed to be kept his party investigation if you just mention transportation safety board of canada launched an investigation into the titan disaster the u.s. coast guard announced yesterday the national transportation safety board had declared the last of the titan eight major marine casualty predate launch their own investigation. now, following the polar prince into port the merlin came in telling the launch and recovery platform. people in the small community of submersibles probably think the sled. even that is controversy over that is how they load the titan submersible in and out
brought people down without failing in the past, i m wondering how do you account for that? why a failure now? i m not an engineer, but there have been discussions in the science community that the material there could be some questions around it. and it clearly was working a number of times. but during the 2021 season and 2022 seasons, there were a number of dives that took place, but not all of them were successful. some of them got aborted and perhaps for cautiousness or safety reasons, et cetera. but the big question was always going to be around, does this composite material, can it withstand these enormous pressures? it is a new way of building submersibles compared to the old, solid, titanium nickel and steel like the mere 1 and mere 2 that the russians have been
submersible or even the rovs that they were using during the search and rescue operations, you re subject to that kind of pressure, there s always a risk of catastrophic implosion. it s something that we know about. it s something that we plan for, plan against. and it s just a known risk. we take the community takes this into account when designing the submersible, when testing the submersibles, and when operating the submersibles. you mentioned stockton being risk-averse, as you said. red flags had been raised in recent years about this submersible specifically, about the titan and its design. leaders in the industry had actually warned about what they said were potentially catastrophic problems. they said that the company did not follow the safety procedures that others had. do you think this should have been handled differently? well, i think we have to keep in mind that titan was the