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MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 9, 2019 15:06:00

for or against impeachment. for that of course you must vote your conscience. but that is a reason for us to have a fair debate about what the undisputed facts show. to recognize that it is wrong, it is very wrong, and it cannot happen again with this president or any president. it is a reason to talk about whether we wantlk our children d grandchildren to live in a country where the president elected by the people can put his own personal and political interests over the interests of the people who elected them. it is a reason for these debates to, again, fairly focus on the facts and to make sure the presentations we re going to hear will not distort the record. focus on process points, raise extraneous matters that really arean intended to distract rath than focus on what the conduct was at issue here.

MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 9, 2019 15:28:00

by name and raising the allegations of ukrainian influence in the 2016 election on the july 25th call. they ll try to convince you that the trump administration, the sameon administration democrats regularlyio accuse of being incompetent, orchestrated a conspiracy at the highest levels. none of this adds up. it may be a great screen play, but it ist not what the eviden shows. democrats impeachment inquiry ignores all of the evidence that does not advance their story. the democrats impeachment narrative resolves all ambiguous facts and conflicting evidence in a way that is most unflattering to the president. the democrats impeachment narrative ignores public statements from senior ukrainian officials that contradict the narrative. as you listenic to the democrat presentation later today, i urge you to keep these points in mind. what evidence that has been

MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 9, 2019 15:45:00

appropriated securityio assistance, vitalap to ukraine ability to fend off russia aggression. and he conditioned that on the announcement ofhe these two political investigations that were helpful to his personal interests. when the president s efforts were discovered, he released the military aid, though it would ultimately take congressional action for the money to be made fully available to ukraine. theai oval office meeting still hase not happened. and when faced with the opening of an official impeachment his conduct, president trump launched an unprecedented campaign of obstruction of congress, ordering executive branch agencies and government officials to defy subpoenas for documents and testimony. to date, the investigating committees have received no documents from the trump

MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 9, 2019 15:12:00

the house permanent select committee on intelligence and mr. nunes. it sure is a. tom: co atypical for a staffer to testify, but thank you for havingfo me. we re here to discuss about president trump s conduct fits theco high crime or dismeaner. it does not. this case in many respects comes down to eight lines in a call transcript. let me say clearly and unequivocally that the answer to that question is no. the record in the democrats impeachment inquiry does not show that president trump abused the power of his office or obstructed congress. to impeach a president who 63 million people voted for over eight lines in a call transcript is baloney. democrats seek to impeach president trump not because they evidence of high crimes or

MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson December 9, 2019 15:35:00

professor turley said to set this abbreviated schedule, demand documents and then impeach because they haven t been turned over, when they go to court, i think is an abuse of power. the impeachment of a duly elected president as chairman snad ler said in 1988, is the undoing of a national election. now, i understand democrats issued a report over the weekend arguing that contrary to the chairman s statement in 1988, impeachment is not on doing an election. i would justn respond by sayini don t think many of the 63 million americans from all around the country who voted for president trump in 2016 would agree. by impeaching president trump, the house would essentially be nullifying the decision of those americans. and the house would be doing it in lessbe than 11 months before the next election. there still is no compelling argument for why democrats and the house must take this decision out of the hands of the

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