of the day. so the new york prosecutors want to see president trump s tax returns. he has just lost in an appeals court. is this something that you think the supreme court will take up? as it happens, justice ginsburg is the justice who will decide whether to refer it to the entire supreme court. if you read the appellate court opinion, and i urge viewers to read it because it s fascinating. it s by chief judge robert catsman. he cites three cases, he says chief justice marshal ordered thomas jefferson to turn over subpoenaed materials, bill clinton had to turn stuff over, and most importantly richard nixon had to turn over arguably privileged materials. here there s no claim of executive privilege. the tax returns were before he was president. he s not going to be arrested or he doesn t have to appear in court. it s just ordering the accountants to turn over the documents. therefore the appeals court reject the claim that he doesn t have to turn it over. they reject as extraordinary
if they include i didn t understand this. because, look, i thought that you were very sympathetic. you actually set the tone that way. i believe you were the first to say, in your opening statement, in your introductory remark to him, hey, i feel for your family. i m sorry for what they re going through. and then others followed you after that. kudos to you. a little civility goes a long way. but i didn t get this. because he says, i turned all of this stuff over, they then gave it back to me, so now i went through it to give you these things. so he didn t keep these things from the federal authorities, at least by his answer. what were you getting at there? with all due respect, i didn t take anything that mr. cohen said today at face value. just because he said something does not make it so. the man s about to go to prison because he made false statements and, again, i feel for him for that. but it s quite contrary. first of all, that small segment was time that was yielded t
he brought it to be. i want to play it for the audience. i m quoting you, earlier, you said, i spent last week looking through boxes that would support your accusations. where are those boxes good, sir? where are those boxes? are they in your garage? they re in storage. and are these not boxes that should have been turned over to investigative authorities during the many criminal investigations you ve been subject to? sir, these are the boxes that were returned to me if they include i didn t understand this. because, look, i thought that you were very sympathetic. you actually set the tone that way. i believe you were the first to say, in your opening statement, in your introductory remark to him, hey, i feel for your family. i m sorry for what they re going through. and then others followed you after that. kudos to you. a little civility goes a long way. but i didn t get this. because he says, i turned all of this stuff over, they then gave it back to me, so now i went
privilege. and executive privilege is a buzz word that gets misused a lot. you can speak as much legal as you want to when you fight over executive privilege but basically for us regular folks, for understanding that being the big fight they are expecting, it basically boils down to whether or not the president and the white house have to hand stuff over, whether a president has to potentially testify to a special counsel like robert mueller or prosecutors or to congress. do you have to hand over material, do you have to respond to subpoenas that or testify? and we tend to think of the relevant history around that question as being all tied up in watergate, right? richard nixon s efforts to resist the courts when they were demanding he hand over the white house tapes. and it s true, watergate is an important president here. some of the other more recent
to kick up dirt and kind of throw smears at this investigation. the people that write columns in the wall street journal, then go on fox news, they re happy to just accuse the department of stonewalling. it s almost better for them. and to the point that mark warner made in that tweet that you showed, if the department never turns this stuff over, maybe it gives the president the pretext he s been looking for for some time to fire rod rosenstein and try shut down the investigation. expert analysis, chilling at times. matt miller, former spokesman for the d.o.j. thank you for your time tonight. thank you, ari. up next, we re going to turn to some of the new details we are learning tonight about one of those companies that s now been publicly exposed for paying michael cohen. what it says it was getting for that money. stay with us. do not mistake serenity for weakness. do not misjudge quiet tranquility with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses the lincoln mkx, more horsepower t