house. i still critically want to know what the plan was for peter strozk and lisa page to keep the president out of the white house. was at it wider plan? they mentioned the boss andrew mccabe, the former f.b.i. director. who at the agency knew about the plan? was it to lovers tryin to out-text each other and impression ve other? what if that was it? harris: i don t know. i m asking the question. was it any of these things? i think we need to know that. every political party since there is socialism in the room, too, with last night s win among the democratic party. with every we should be thirsty, hungry to know how you can leverage these agencies. josh: absolutely. harris: d.o.j. or the f.b.i. figure out what the punishment will be, the accountability will be once we find out whether or not that is truly what happened. but right now it s dirty. one thing for sure, a lot of stuff leaks. we don t know what we will find out. katie: to pick up on the point of wanting to know
room right now. that has seemed to play out. but it sounds to me like the lawyers have taken over. it s one thing to go on twitter and say, yeah, i ll give them whatever they need. i m happy to talk to the committee. it s another thing entirely to have it kind of sink in, to realize if donald trump, jr. and paul manafort testified in a public hearing, their words would be parsed. they would have the margin of error would be so slim that they could put themselves in real jeopardy legally and otherwise. there is a flip side here, though, that i think is important to point out which is the fact that when these hearings are in 3r50i67private, this with michael caputo who testified behind closed doors, and he actually complained after and said that he would have preferred for it to be out in the public. and the reason why the nonclassified stuff leaks. you can have different interpretations. congresswoman jacquie spire came out after the hearing suggesting that he may have lied be