upside down funnel that will go over the leak site, and it s smaller than the one they tried before. and if that works, it will collect the oil and, again, run it up a tube to the ship. those are the two things that they are trying right now to see if they work. first the the insertion tube, and in the long run, they re also talking about maybe trying to stuff junk, they call it, a number of items, tires and ground-up material into the blowout preventer to see if that can clog up the oil and stop the oil flow enough so they can put mud and cement on top of that. so, there s a number of things they re trying. so far, however, that oil is still flowing, alex. yeah, and speaking of the oil flowing, all sorts of questions about how much is flowing. what s the latest you re hearing, mark? reporter: there s a debate on that came out after the pictures were released with the oil flowing out of the pipe. for quite some time the government was saying we were