testimony back in 2015 and about hillary clinton. he said yeah, i don t want you to call it an investigation. and he said really she says i want you to call it a matter. steve: in fact, we have got that exchange right here with senator james burr. at one point the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation but instead to call it a matter which confused me and concerned me. it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way political campaign was describing the same activity, which was inaccurate. we had a criminal investigation open. harris: all right. so to get on a record a source familiar with loretta lynch wanted to respond to that discussion and did so this way. no one,including the director, contested that view. it didn t take long to say that. steve: that they called it a matter. if you remember back in the time there was a story, i think it was in the new york times where they referred to
and she said just call it a matter. it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way political campaign was describing the same activity which was inaccurate. brian: rambling behind the scenes, how significant. pretty significant. massive revelation. i think it gout battered from the broader trump news yesterday. it s quite a story. consternation inside the campaign particularly after that lynch-clinton moment on the tarmac. even at the white house, obama aides were scratching their heads saying we are senatorrer than. this. brian: what were you thinking? it was a bad moment for the campaign. harris: what was interesting. even supporters of the campaign said that might have been a tipping point. one of the biggest moments when bill clinton and loretta lynch were on that plane on the tarmac. we still talk about that. on the book tour that s one of the biggest questions why didn t they see that was a problem?
i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special council. i asked a close friend of mine to do it. was that mr. whiteus? no. who was that? a good friend of mine a professor at columbia law school. brian: that was pretty shocking. i was stunned. to me by the way i have explosive story that i m going to say on same level. harris: important detail is the friend. if you are in trouble, this is the kind of friend you would call. this wasn t just any friend. chief appellate attorney for the u.s. attorney s office. he has actually been an expert witness testifying before congress and hearings numerous times. he is a consultant to the doj. not just a law professor, they worked together until 2013. he and comey say they have a past professional relationship. this is not just any friend. he would have connections to the media. he would know how to get out a message. this is not like hey i m going to phone a friend and
miscaucus. they wermismisscalculation. yes she won more votes. she won the most seats but not enough to form a majority. nevertheless, she is going to try and do just that which is why she is on her way to buckingham palace at the moment. the conservatives won 319 seats. and labor 261. with a smashing other parties winning the rest of them. theresa may called the election because she wanted a personal mandate. that has absolutely back fired. and already there are questions about how long she can stay as prime minister. though she has announced that she will not resign. at this time more, than anything else, this country needs a period of stability. and if, as the indications have shown, if this is correct, that the conservative party has won the most seats and probably the most votes,
to aline the way we talked about our work with the way the political campaign was describing the same activity which was inaccurate. we had a criminal investigation open. brian: just to be detail from is a source close to attorney general loretta lynch. he wasn t alone. i said to everyone use the word matter not investigation. he said that s traditional with investigations not to reveal it publicly. james, no one said a word including james comey. steve: you know what s interesting about that. brian: i might as well be totally accurate. here is the quote. there is the tweet no. one, including the director, contested that view. steve: i thought you had summarized it. what s interesting then is they dispute what mr. comey said. also mr. comey was asked about a new york times article regarding russia and campaign ads had conversations with the intel community. mr. comey said that story not true then the new york times