mark hill, thank you for coming on. and tonight penn state is going to suspend some students at a frat for hazing, and also at university of houston a and campus is losing its charter for suspending student ss under hazing allegations. well this is happening every year. and i happen to believe that the fra tern fraternities and the sororities are a good thing and they do a good thing in society, and i know that a tremendous number of black fraternities do a number of good works, but when you have homogeneous spaces you will
have the worst doubling-down the, and you have bad spaces of white males who do bad stuff, and racist stuff well, when you do look at the stuff that happened with the statue there in mistsissippi, and so, ben, do we ignore it, and it happens on college campus all of the time, and you were in a college fraternity, and did you witness that? well, no, i also came into a fraternity that had been kicked off after four years. wait what happened? there was hazing that had been kicked off for four years, and so it had been come back and so this is what the colleges should be doing. and they should be opening up the can, and they should be opening it up, and setting an example, and when you go after one, every fraternity and