administration. we may be looking at the next. what do you say to these young palestinians, some of who may feel that the struggle isn t worth it any longer. others say they are fueled, reengaged with the palestinian struggle because of what s happening in the present. i would definitely say to such a person that i understand their frustration. and their aspirations. they re very legitimate aspirations. the only way that can by achieved is through negotiations. it is going to be under different leaders. i don t think the current leaders are capable of that. to keep that alive is very much in the palestinians interest. it s also how israel can remain its to remain a jewish and democratic state. that s why i say it s not a slam-dunk for israel in the sense that the dilemmas that make two states in israel s interests haven t gone away. you and i are going to continue to talk this morning, not the least about what feels like the very order of the middle east at stake at present,