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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:15:35:00

in afghanistan after 9/11. so how is it that a new order can fight a group that does not have a regular army and is really kind of engrained within the civilian populations of syria and iraq? well, something to the effect that can handle the complexity of the situation, as you are describing it, meaning something that can deal with the on-the-ground conventional military, special operations military happenings that are going on across the middle east and north africa, stretching all the way back to the cities, to law enforcement, to homeland security, which is different for us in america versus in europe, which is much closer to the fight, which is closer to the region, has more of a collective sense about it. so on some different level you know, nato is a military alliance. that s about military invasion. it is not really geared for this. there s been years of defense ministers going to nato asking nato to consider having a greater focus on the middle

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:15:42:00

to? that s their biggest argument for asylum. things can change in syria in the year or so it takes for this processing to take place. it is a work in progress but it is their best argument ever for seeking and getting asylum in the united states. you can t send us back. how can you? mark potter, thank you very much. isis is just released another propaganda video threatening attacks here in the united states, europe, russia and china. i m joined now by washington post national security correspondent greg miller. greg, great seeing you. so you got a rare look inside the isis propaganda machine speaking with isis defectors. tell me what you found. reporter: well, what we found was that this is an army unto itself inside the islamic state and one that is given a great deal of prestige and priority by the organization. so as you said, we met with defectors, including defectors who are now in prison in morocco to try to get a better understanding of how this propaganda mechanism,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:14:40:00

weeks after her capture, she seas she was taken to a fighter s house in syria. aconvenient sold her to another fighter, who raped her for six months. she said all that matters to her is seeing her family again. cross has to sprawling refugee camps are living the same hell. more than 2,000 are still pos

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:15:40:00

that s a very common route. how did they get from syria to here? well, the same way that the men who were arrested in honduras arrived by plane. those men who were picked up on tuesday, five men, carrying phony greek passports went through several countries, including several in latin america, arriving in honduras. it was believed that if they had gotten through customs there they did not they would have then go to the next northern city, up through guatemala, into mexico and up to the u.s. border. a very common smuggling route. a very common route that immigrants take to get to the united states. it would require the help of smugglers and it is a dicey, dangerous trip. and that s what officials believe at least preliminarily these syrians were doing to get to the united states. again, they turned themselves in. in both cases. no climbing the fence. they turned themselves in. what s scary is that the case

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151123:15:43:00

and i mean it is very tightly controlled and organized within syria and iraq. there are media teams in every district. there s sort of a hierarchy. these cameramen get a month of training upon arrival. they get assignments on slips of paper and there are in almost every district production groups that could be in safe houses or other structures where they re using computers to put together the footage that is generated every day and to the sort of videos that you just referred to. are these people from all over the world? what kind of people are we talking about? we re talking about a variety. yeah, they are from all over the world. i mean this is part of the reason i mean the effectiveness and power of the isis propaganda machine helps to explain why there are 30,000 foreign fighters who have gone to syria since that civil war started. a lot of the media teams are

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