in mitt romney. then against cain, he s up 11%. 49% to 38%. he s up 12 points to rick perry. good numbers for obama there. it is important to note that in that matchup with mitt romney, you want to see the numbers close to 50 if you re the folks in the white house. the interesting thing to note about mitt romney is the inability that he s strog move up nationally from the 23% position. why isn t romney gaining more traction with the average voter? that s a great question. in our august survey, he was at 23%. in this survey he s at 23%. when you look inside the numbers, it s not that republican voters don t like romney. they like him fine. but he gets strong support from the republicans. he s maybe their second choice. he s hoping that s the formula for success later on. mark murray, great to see