keeping mueller in place. i don t think people realize how profound the change was when president trump got rid of his old lawyer. mark caso- - who was a street brawler and brought in ty cobb who advocated a 180 degree switch and strategy. let s cooperate entirely. let s give them everything and bring this investigation to a close. while president trump has been complaining about rosenstein, complaining about mueller, has said things to his staff that made them nervous. i don t get any sense that any change is the imminent. i think his entire legal team would resign if he moved to fire either rosenstein or mueller. chris: do you get the sense he will actually sit down and participate in an interview with mueller and his investigators? well, when president trump said that in that impromptu briefing. that freaked out his legal
they want this they see it s not just a legal fight, it s a political fight. they re yearning for the fight that they were looking for in june, bay in may when trump was fighting this thing. shepard: behind the scenes you write about what the president s demeanor is on this matter and it relates to the other investigations underway. absolutely. he seems to be at peace with it for now. there s an interesting conversation i had with somebody that is dialled in on this that told me that that could change on a dime. if the president gets the sense that mueller and his team are coming after his family, if they re looking at his businesses, coming after him directly, then he could go back to the old trump. the one the street brawler. but if mueller and his team state focused on paul manafort and michael flynn, trump is okay
republican. quiet, quiet, quiet. to the point you made earlier, testy, angry at that reporter there. this is a difference between being the new york city street brawler, who is donald trump, but had great success politically. that has helped him. he took that question personally. it wasn t about him, but he took it that way. the reporter later said he took no offense to the way the question was taken. he said there s a lot of support for donald trump in his community. we push these narratives about donald trump having a problem with jewish people that aren t necessarily based in fact, and that there are he has a daughter who is jewish. he has an ambassador nominee to israel who is considered very strong supporter of israel. these there are other things that need to be part of this thing that we talk about as we talk about it. i think it has nothing to do with the subject matter. if you ask donald trump a question about do you like puppies, sometimes he just takes it i don t
agenda going forward. russia, his conflicts of interest, you name it. it s him just having a gut reaction to respond to these things. that s going to be interesting going forward. it s more to me, and please correct me if i disagree, but it s more to me that you are calling the new york times and saying let s talk about this and say sort of a new york city street brawler. it speaks to this narrative of he wants to come in as the underdog. they re all insulting me. they re all, you know, disrespecting me and not taking me seriously. it s ironic, obviously, because this is a man who has been in the hollywood mix for many, many years himself. it s drew his supporters do view hollywood as a negative. they view them as elitist liberals and much of hollywood did support hillary clinton in the campaign, so it s not a misplaced attempt, but, again, i think it s more about creating this narrative of being in this defensive crouch, and he is hitting back the ahis critics even before he tak
jobs were 800, instead of 1100, does that mean that it was any sort of less note worthy what president-elect trump did in saving some jobs from going to mexico? no. i don t think it is. and i think there s a larger issue at work here. it s that here is another example of a incoming president who s much more of a counterpuncher, much more of a street brawler in the wheeling and the dealing. and the way he s going to deal with companies, the way he s going to try to save jobs, the way he s going to deal with company decisions, trade decisions, we re getting a window into how i think he s going to operate. that may produce some gains, it may produce losses. but it seems like it s going to be a lot of interference. and it s going to be on a hair trigger and i think that kind of unpredictability is going to have to get a lot of people very worried to say nothing of the idea of the kind of principle of the president of the united states getting involved in