and rural wisconsin. deeply maga territory. at the end of the day, they are fundamentally decent people. i hope and believe that all these folks in america, i m not talking about the extreme maga folks. i m talking about who were once main stream republicans. they want something decent. and donald trump is a fundamentally indecent man. and i cannot help but hope that during the election. we ve got d-day coming up. tell 80th anniversary. donald trump s refusal to go to a world war i cemetery because it was raining. there are thing when people look at law and order and national security. they look at what he did with national security and the secrets at mar-a-lago and talking to any number of people. they want somebody decent. and i think to sarah s earlier point on an earlier segment, get hammering home the fundamental indecency of donald trump. just the facts.
characterization of desantis brand of conservatism and it not being traditional. i think teddy roosevelt would beg to differ. the republican party does have something of a history of muscular conservatism when they think it s warranted, and what desantis is talking about is cracking down on corporations which republicans believe are doing great harm to american culture, and so the fight with disney i know it s offensive to everyone who hates the republican party and hates desantis it s actually working with main stream republicans, i promise you. hey, buddy, don t go throwing teddy roosevelt around me on this one. this is not about muscular conservatism. this isn t about trust busting and reshaping the economy in a post. industrial age when the middle class felt squeezed and there was massive income equality. this is punishing a private corporation for taking a political position that he disagreed with as governor. i think you can make the
side. he wanted to arm ukraine to the teeth following the 2014 invasion of crimea. i saw main stream republicans say it was a huge misstep on his part and people who are still base republican voters, that s where i worry that desantis might not be properly battle tests in the sense some of his core convictions i m not sure are laid out. i will note his book did very well. people are clearly interested to know what he believes and what he has to say, but there s been a bit of flip-flopping i think could catch up with him. thanks so much. just ahead, some counties in eastern oregon are trying to secede and join the republican dominated idaho. kyung lah is there with the latest on how they got a big lift in making that dream a reality. also, former first lady michelle obama talking about the intense spotlight of being the first black family to occupy the white house. you know, one small misstep isn t just a misstep for you, but it s for your family, for your community, for your ra
helped veterans with burn pit problems. got aid to ukraine. we did the biggest change on climate to go against the carbon that goes into the atmosphere in history. we got a lot done. i m not giving up the hope of getting it done now. i don t want to have them just investigate and pass the crazy bills led by a few extremists. i do believe, again, don, let me say this again, i do believe not in the next two weeks but in the next few months, many of the main stream republicans when you talk to them privately they despise what the maga folks have done, will come back and that gives mccarthy ability to come back and negotiate and get things done for the american people. bills, dolphins, who s going to win? bills, please. vikings giants. i ve been a giant fan since abraham. i saved the bills from moving
many democrats, including in conservative states. it is one of the key reasons that we know that the talk of a red wave quickly crested into the red fizzle, which is why mccarthy had such a narrow margin that extremists like matt gaetz could hold the house hostage. it s irony that the fizzle, which many main stream republicans was caused in part by the extreme candidates actually strengthened last week. but for a different view, and again, it s not monolithic, take a listen to republican representative mace and how she views this current abortion push by her party this week. s week that was audio of her from