january 6th. they admit why they went, what they hoped to do, and the acts and steps that they thought they were justified in taking. you don t have to look very far than like msnbc roll, video roll or any television broadcast video roll to see evidence, and not absolutely incontrovertible evidence but pretty good evidence of felonies, thousands of them. people want to say that an office that there was no swrie lens on that day, but every time someone pushed a bike rack into a police officer s face they were assaulting a law enforcement officer. so this notion of them being peaceful folks who were in the wrong place at the wrong time as the rally organizer, mr. maynard, has claimed sort of strains credulity.
and over and over again and what is sort of droned on in the whatever channels they are listening to, whatever radio, television, or also politicians they are listening to. and politicians in so many of these districts, republicans, are telling them that donald trump is the rightful president and that the election was stolen from him and that joe biden was illegitimately elected. i mean it really i know it sort of strains credulity, jonathan, but remember after 9/11, a lot of politicians told people that saddam hussein was a part of the 9/11 attacks. and two-thirds of americans at a certain point believe that saddam hussein had engineered those attacks. it s because politicians told them that. those people have a big platform, and in this case people with very big platforms donald trump doesn t have twitter anymore, but he has a lot of other media continually say this, and it s believed.
interesting first day on the job, and in the wake of that, we saw a number of different responses from the white house, and ultimately the white house seems to have settled back on some of the original narratives which is this idea that the president didn t know that the payment was being made and when it was made, and that kind of strains credulity, and in part, michael cohen himself said publicly that he had a conversation with donald trump on the very data he made the payment to stormy daniels. the idea that he would have spokephone president, but that he wouldn t have told the president that he paid off a porn star for the alleged relationship is something hard to fathom, and so the story is complicate and moving in a lot of drirections and ultimately a body blow to the credibility of the white house. charlie savage, i want to play a cut here for the reporters from air force one as he made the journey to dallas texas where where he spoke to nra and how the story changed and this
this is a guy who thinks he s the smartest guy in the room. he s so confident he needs no staff, no chief of staff, he s a micromanager and can run his own thing. he s used to doing that as a ceo. i think at this point to argue he didn t know about the payments that sort of strains credulity. i suppose we can sit back and say there are two little guardian angels flying around and taking care of cleaning up trump s messes, but that s ridiculous. and nobody believes that. so why would they keep it quiet? i think he s probably directed his people to cover up his problems. what about the timing of these payments? it s awfully close to the election. before that, when you say directing these people, here s the one thing i think that he that may help him, meaning the president. he doesn t e-mail, right? i don t think he has a computer. so there would be no paper trail. well, that may be true, but realize you ve got people now
research, the candidate rarely knows, certainly campaign chairman would know but the campaign manager usually wouldn t. jeanine: ha-ha. joining us now turning point usa founder charlie kirk and fox s contributor doug schoen. doug, i go to you right away. please. jeanine: because as someone who worked with those clintons, let s talk about how they spend their money. the idea that the the clint clintons are any in that the clintons or any other candidate would spend $12 million and the candidate wouldn t know what was being done and what was the result of what was being done strains credulity. i was in the 96 campaign with leon panetta. he d know about big expenditur expenditures. i knew about big expenditures. no evidence bill clinton would have known about this every reason to believe hillary clinton would have. jeanine: ok. charlie, i ll go to you then. given it s clear this money went from the clinton foundation,