not whatever. we want to hear i ll talk. i said i ll talk. i m awake, i m listening, i m reactive. coming up the interrogation, act two. an actor confessing what he says was his role that need at sam s apartment. dan says he could see two gunshot wounds? that s when the lightbulb went off.
the centuries-old motive money. more than $60, 000, in fact. sam herr s combat pay. when he was deployed, basically all the money that he was earning in the military just went into a savings account. he didn t spend it when he was deployed. and dan wozniak wanted that money? yes. and julie kibuishi? dan said he killed her to cover his tracks and to frame sam. to make it look like he was on the run and he did it. he was the one that did it. right, and that if he was disappeared completely, you d never find him. and it would all go away. but none of this was going away. especially for those left behind in the wake of two murders. steve herr, sam s dad, remembers when police showed up at his door. they came in, and they said, sam s been found. he was murdered. and for whatever reason, i said i don t know what made me say
it s like that, and you just i don t know how to describe it. dan wozniak was charged with two counts of first-degree murder. dan s older brother tim, along with tim s girlfriend, was also arrested and charged with accessory to murder. detectives believed they had helped hide some evidence, including the murder weapon. wesley, the teenager who had used sam herr s bank card, was not charged with any crime. and despite his confession to police, dan pleaded not guilty. he was jailed without bond, and if convicted, could face the death penalty. a year after his arrest, dan wozniak sat down for an interview with msnbc s lockup.
something like that, yeah. and he did win her over. he proposed, and she said yes. i wasn t head over heels in love, but i was okay with it. rachel said money was tight for the young couple. you know, neither of us had career jobs or anything. so yeah, money was always up and down and hard to get. but rachel says she and dan continued to plan for that may wedding, and that her parents said they d foot the bill. my parents are traditional, and they were going to pay for it. of course, that wedding never happened. one week before their scheduled nuptials, on friday, may 21st, 2010, the day dan wozniak told police he murdered sam herr, rachel says her fiance was acting strangely. he said he had borrowed money to pay the rent, and he had borrowed it from loan sharks and just saying, yeah, i lied to you. and i m in trouble now. and i owe bad people money.