be the john dean of the story. what s your reaction to this tape tonight? well, it s interesting, i m somebody who has listened to an awful lot of tapes back in the nixon era and more recently thousands of them for nixon s conversations, every conversation he did on watergate. the only way you can really hear a tape is with a foot pedal where you can reverse and listen and listen and listen. each time i ve listened to this tape, i ve heard something different or a little bit more. and what it does to me is if he wants to do what i did, having the tape to back you up is certainly nice. i didn t know tapes were there. i suspected they were there but didn t know initially when i broke rank and started talking. after my testimony is when the tapes came out. but i think this does put the lie to the trump people on their version of this story as i hear it. it certainly comports with what michael has been saying, so this bolsters his truth. so lanny davis was on with chris moments ago, an