getting war planes that they asked for to fight the russians? well, i think the most important thing we can do right now is make sure we re giving the ukrainians the kinds of weapons that will be most effective. so, the reports i ve seen if they are true in mariupol is that these chemical weapons were delivered by drone, which means that a mig, an airplane, would not be effective in stopping it. the things that are most effective are the javelin, anti-tank, the stinger anti-aircraft, the arm drones we see they re using from turkey. we re working with our partners and allies to get more of those there. the s300 system to be able to protect their skies, missile defense and what the uk is delivering on these anti-ship. those are the kinds of things that are most effective in protecting civilians. and that s why it s so important that we don t get focussed on necessarily these big, shiny objects, which we ve actually seen this war has shown has been less effective. that s what the russia
administration a list of requests. that list includes equipment like armed drones, anti-ship missiles, off-the-shelf electronic jamming equipment and surface-to-air missiles, but also more of what the united states has already been providing, more of those stinger anti-aircraft missiles, more javelin anti-tank weapons. nbc s intelligence ken delaney is behind this reporting and we re joined by jason beardsly, national executive director of the association of the u.s. navy. ken, you laid out that list in your reporting. you also drill into a very specific kind of drone that the biden administration is considering providing to ukraine. what more can you tell us about that? that s right, craig. two congressional officials with knowledge of the matter told us the biden administration is considering providing ukraine with switch blade loitering munitions.
weaponry to do it with. in addition to that, the stinger anti-aircraft. why that is significant, katy, the united states had reporting about this that the u.s. was sending hundreds of the stingers in. the biden administration has not been open to acknowledging they are sending the anti-air systems in, and now they are acknowledging that and doubling the number of stinger missiles they have sent to ukraine, and another 800 will make their way in. these are very important right now to the ground fight in ukraine. it could take out russian aircraft that could be coming in, and it s something that president zelenskyy talked about, the need to take out the planes in the skies. yeah, they are trying to minimize the civilian
and to make us succeed within a reasonable period of time. let s bring in michael ripas. so nice to see you this morning. ukraine says it wants weapons. they re getting them. show you what s coming soon here, $800 million of stinger anti-aircraft, 200 jaff lins, 100 tactical drones, anti-armor drones. will this help? absolutely. they re already putting the stuff we provided to them to effect. local camera attacks are having a devastating effect on the rear echelons on the country. we re trying to cut off the rear, the supply trains, if you will, of the russian military, and those are the territorials and those are the people that can use these very lethal yet simple to use weapons with minimal training in the rear area and wreak havoc.
us. $800 million worth of new equipment. 800 stinger anti-aircraft systems. 9,000 anti-armor systems, including javelins. 7,000 small arms, including machine guns, shotguns, grenade launchers, 20 million rounds of small arms ammunition. drones. will this change the equation on the ground? it will help them keep going and maintain this bloody stalemate and keep beating the russians back. it doesn t include the sophisticated weapon systems that president zelenskyy had been pushing for. the u.s. said they are not going to object if neighboring european countries want to give ukraine s-3000s. u.s. isn t going to send in patriot missile batteries. for some of the sophisticated systems you need u.s. contractors and personnel to operate them.