discussion whether it was obama or boehner and ever agreed it was cantor. if you ve now tried that and then you say, and again, would not have been my approach, i would have taken a different president s the president. belief over and over was if we give them a chance to rise to the occasion and be bipartisan, then we ll get the kind of deal the country needs. he s all out of that. there s no more plays to make and this is a chance where the senate democrats need to take a stand and say here s what we think it is. if the republicans continue to compromise not at all, things will fail and january 1, we get to have a conversation about the economy. david, i find your question ironic, those are the same guys who are telling us the stimulus didn t work. if they re going to tell me you can t raise taxes because that would hit aggregate demand, well i welcome republicans telling me that the stimulus works. let s be clear here it s not stimulus. the conservatives, tax cuts are not
the stimulus didn t work. he said, if he wasn t able to bring the economy around, he shouldn t be re-elected and he s right. he has seven months. when have you a drop in the bucket and whenever our economy is the the hole that we have, it s like the grand canyon. we are not going to be able to dig out of it. there is nothing we can do soon enough, which is why obama s talking about women s issues and trying to have a war on women, which isn t even there because he cannot run on the economy because he s had a very, very dismal reaction in and it is not good and people are not happy with him right now in the economy. if we do not see enough of a change, i don t see how we do because we are in such a hole. there is no way that he will be re-elected? there s dee dee s prediction? i think it will be close. if there were an election tomorrow, president obama would win narrowly, but we have a long way to go. there are a bunch of international events that could
around. so i think that obama can take responsibility for that, and he is, and he rightfully should. megyn: marc, this seems to be how it s going to go if romney becomes the nominee. he s going to say the president gets no credit for t.a.r.p. because he didn t do it, and with respect to the stimulus, he gets no credit because it didn t get us out of this jam. kirsten cites facts president obama will surely use, the investors business daily argue says the recession ended in 2009, and just 15% of the stimulus money had gone out of the door at that point. the gdp had stopped freefalling long before the stimulus even kicked in the. yeah. as obama said, the shovel-ready projects weren t so shovel ready. there s a stanford study that says most consumers put the money towards savings, and the states used it to put off to borrow less. it didn t put money out the door to get consumers and businesses spending again, it just didn t work.
a depression, and the president didn t stave one off either. they said t.a.r.p. did and the stimulus had very little to do with it. well, but i think, first of all, you never know what is going to happen in the future, so i think there was a fear, definitely, that we could be spiraling into something really terrible, you know, another like great depression. certainly, we ve had a very bad recession, and i have to say no matter how many times republicans say the stimulus didn t work, it s not true. and every economist pretty much says that, including mark zandi who was john mccain s economist has said that we would have a much higher rate of unemployment had it not been for the stimulus. they make a strategic mistake in saying unemployment would, you know, wouldn t go above a certain level. yes, that was a mistake. that doesn t make the stimulus not success. the economy is turning around, most americans believe the economy s turning around, most economists, most business people believ
pull people with a blank slate in 2008. it won t happen again and his coat tails will bring down a lot of candidates in 2012. you don t think the president has any chance of winning indiana again? that was a one and done deal, an anomaly in 2008? and one and done is actually what we say about it. i m glad. i m glad you used that. but yeah. look. he is unpopular. the stimulus didn t work. his promises to create three, four million jobs through the stimulus did not pan out. they promised 70,000 new jobs in indiana because of the stimulus. less than 6,000 have been created. where would mitch daniels be right now if he was in the race? well, obviously a little bi s biased in that, luke. i think he would probably be leading the pack. it is because of a results-oriented record. he should have gotten in. he should have gotten in. you know, i think i ve heard today mitt romney is really going to start focusing on results in his record in massachusetts and how he is