street journal journal gordon lubold. gordon you have new details how it went down. tell me. i thinkway we know is that based on the reporting yesterday about the email that what happened was you know a seniorish level person from the white house, white house military office directed advance people on the ground to do something about the optics that were presented the optics challenge posed by the chip being there. and i think part of the problem is and see any directive from the white house would be taken very seriously by even any officers. but i mean lower level officers who wouldn t necessarily know to kind of push back on it then began to kind of execute efforts to obscure the name of the ship. well, you talked about the tarp being there. i mean, but also gordon i think
it got 52 votes. who controls the senate again? six republicans broke ranks and voted yes with the democrats to re-open the government without giving the president a wall between us and mexico. you know, which is not nothing. that means that the effort to end the shutdown, the democrats effort to re-open this and fight about the wall some other way, the democrats managed to pick off six republican senators, six, six republicans crossed the aisle to vote with democrats. that, of course, gets them closer to the 60 senators you would need to pass a funding bill. they got 65 vot52 votes today. they need 60 to pass the senate. even if you polished your lucky rabbit s foot and danced around four-leaf clover, and got a bunch more republicans to agree on a single bill to re-open the government, that still wouldn t be enough, even after it passed the senate because as longer as the president doesn t get his wall, he says he won t sign
though, if the stars aligned and you polished your lucky rabbit s foot and danced around a patch of four-leafed clovers and got a bunch more republicans to agree on a single bill to reopen the government, that still wouldn t be enough after it passed the senate because as long as the president doesn t get his wall, he says he won t sign anything. he ll veto anything other than his wall. that means in order to reopen the government, you need a veto proof majority, you need 67 senators, not just 60. so you can set your watches for that happening at hell freezing over o clock. but who knows? maybe the president will wake up tomorrow morning, let off some steam with a few early morning rage tweets and then try to call the whole thing off? right? stranger things have happened. honestly just today stranger things happened. today the president acknowledged reality on the state of the union thing for instance. nancy pelosi told him he couldn t give the speech in the house until the shutdown is
chief ben lawfair. his new people is entitled i know brett kavanaugh, but i wouldn t confirm him. also with us, former assistant united states attorney in the criminal division on the u.s. attorney s office for the southern district of new york. he has a new piece for msnbc.com. a think site that takes a critical look at the letter that gop prosecutor rachel mitchell sent about christine blasey ford s potential case. fascinating angles here with these guests. joe. thank you so much for being with us, benjamin, and thank you for the law fair podcast. it s the only way i get through the day. it s extraordinary. thank you. so let s talk about brett kavanaugh. i was just going on a little rant before that i thought that there were a lot of wild accusations going out there. but that being said, still wouldn t want him on the supreme court for a lot of reasons.
and demand from a supreme court nominee or any judge, even when under intense personal pressure of the sort that he s clearly under. and i also think he shows a frankly partisan and conspear the tollal streak that in my experience with him i have never seen before and i was deeply shocked by. and for all of those reasons, i was just left after thursday thinking that i cannot support his nomination any more. there were some people who watched judge kavanaugh opens the testimony and you thought, even if he s not guilty of what he s accused of here, the temple he showed in that room, the hot headedness and a bit of a clinton bent, he is sounded