getting specifically job creation, the current proposal, i m not going to talk about the other problems in the tax code. if we were to remove deductions for some people or all people, believe it or not, that creates more demand, because you re putting money in an ira account because you get a tax break today and for 30 and 40 years. and if it went away, imagine during a recession, no 401 contributions and a tax break. all of that money would have got spent during the recession. so this particular proposal may not cause joblessness to go up in the short run. it s not a good long-term policy. brenda: what do you think, toby, about tax hikes, what are they going to do to the tax rate. still digesting jonas. and christina roamer only spent like 30 years researching the facts.