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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:14:00

determination of their sentencing, or is this specifically to do with the role that they played on january 6th? you know, it s a delicate line, a lot of these scenarios. they have a lot of these first amendment claims. the history of the group definitely play a big role in the trial overall because they went back and looked at these previous events that the proud boys were involved in. and obviously that video that was referenced earlier in terms of the stand back and stand by from president trump was evidence in this case that is sort of this remarkable moment where you had this footage of the president inspiring a group that is now charged with seditious conspiracy and has now been convicted of seditious conspiracy. it s definitely played a role in how this case sort of all rolled out. they look back at the previous conflicts. and the proud boys were involved in skirmishes here in d.c. before january 6th, both in nevada and december of 2020 in that period after the election loss. a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:15:00

with the president. visiting another meeting with the president. that is pretty much official biz for most. a want to say one more thing before your previous section, the breaking news. that is really important because the story that prosecutors want to tell is the full story. and if they have to tell this story 19 times, or seven times, it is a mess. i would just point you to something at end of fani willis s motion to the judge in which she essentially asked for the chance to get clarity and also the chance to speak and argue about severing anyone from the case. she just needed to make a chance for an argument why severing is not going to work for her. it is one thing to say i have a speedy trial and then another person to say i want to be separate from of the rest of the folks and there may be a good

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:09:00

you re ultimately going to end up serving at least 85% of that time. so if you have a sentence of 30 years, that s a really long time that you re going to be spending in federal prison, you know. when you look at in comparison the stewart rhodes case, he is in there for a hefty period of time, 18 years, he is going to be in there for several presidential cycles to come. frank, let s talk what what errin was talking about. some of it is punishment. the fbi understands that domestic violent extremism, talking about seditious conspiracy, something relatively specific, the overturning of the 2020 election. but the domestic violent extremism is the scourge of our time. it is the threat to more lives in america than most other things are right now. do these sentences put a dent in the effort to fight that? most of my viewers can draw a link between these guys on the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:39:00

so, glenn, i mean, this is just all new territory for me, right. i ve never had this discussion about whether an adviser to the president may or may not have been intoxicated. but talk to me about how this is important to anybody s case. jack smith s case, fani willis s case, rudy giuliani is a named co-defendant in georgia, not in the january 6 case for the moment. tell me more about what you think about this and the thread that jack smith is pulling on. yeah, i think it is relevant evidence. it is not just salacious. it is not just the setup a punchline about rudy giuliani. but first of all, intoxication is a subject of keen interest in most criminal investigations. for example, if you have a defendant who is intoxicated at the time he committed a crime, it might negate his specific intent and it might take a case of a salt with intent to kill down to a case of simple assault because he was too drunk to form

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:03:00

it said on august 25th, 2023, defendant sidney powell also filed a speedy trial demand. the state maintained its position that severance is improper at this juncture and all defendants should be tried together. but at an absolute minimum, the court should set defendant powell s trial and that of any other defendant who may file a speedy trial demand on the same day as defendant chesebro. but the argument that she s making, that the judge is going to have to consider, severance is improper. what is the basis of arguing that severance in a case like this is improper? so, ali, any time we indict a co-defendant case, the prosecutors have a keen interest in keeping all the defendants in the same trial. the defendants ordinary try to

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