This week, Utah Opera opens its production of Puccini’s Tosca one of the most dramatic works in the operatic repertoire, telling the tempestuous tale of a love triangle between a famous singer, a painter, and a corrupt police chief.
no, no you can t come! [ male announcer ] e-trade. less for us. more for you. jon: we are still awaiting a decision on a new pope. the cardinals are inside the sis ten chapel in rome right now. a new round of voting expected at this hour. earlier we saw black smoke billowing out of the chimney. that means no one got the required 77 votes to become the next pope. if we see white smoke that means there s a new pope and it could happen any minute now. steven white a fellow with the catholic studies program at the ethics in public policy center joins us now. steven, i m curious how the process works and, you know, obviously they re balloting in secret but some people have to change their votes in order for the black smoke to turn white. i mean if everybody stayed the same, vote after vote after vote, this process
lives. rick: steven white is a fellow catholic studies program at the ethics and public policy center. great insight, steven. thank you so much. thanks for having me. [speaking italian] in. jenna: as the oath continues here, all 115 cardinals will step forward and swear to secrecy over the next several days. could be several days, we actually don t know, until the conclave is over and a new pope is selected. standing by with us is robert moynihan, inside the vatican magazine editor. and, robert, i m just curious on your observations, your thoughts and feelings on a day like today where the conclave is about to begin. well, i m excited, and i m wondering what the results will be. first question, will it be short or will it be long. if it s short, we could even
expected to take place and we could soon see the white or black smoke rise from the chapel chimney which would signal whether or not there is a new pope. it is not expected today but you never know what might happen. we have steven white a fellow at the catholic studies program at the ethics in public policy center. steven, we ll go back to some live pictures we have right now. walk us through the final process. these are last live pictures of the cardinals we ll see potentially for the next several days. so where are we now in the process? right now it looks like they are not yet in the sistine chapel. they may be in the pauline chapel. what you notice earlier today they had a mass for the election of a new roman pontiff. now they re in another chapel going through some prayers. they will be processing in. citing litany of the saints. if this seems like liturgy more than a political convention there is reason
jenna: so the procession is taking place now to the sistine chapel and then, steven, once inside the chapel, where we no longer will have any live pictures, take us inside. what happens next? well, once they get inside there will be some people who will be in with the conclave who will be sworn in as it were, promised to secrecy. and then at some point everyone will be asked to leave. everyone who is extra leave, or everyone, all out is what it means. and then the cardinalses will be locked in the conclave. they will all take an oath as a group and then individually to follow the rules set out for the election of a new pontiff set by john paul ii in 1996. they will promise to undertake the task faithfully and choose the