negotiation, a discussion is possible for the first time in years. he is the negotiator in chief in theory. shouldn t get personally involved. but, you know, most of our policy tools here are weak. and when we had success in restraining the program, it has been through diplomacy. so i hope he uses this opportunity to explore that as a possibility, a possibility we have not really used very often in recent years this is something he gets for free for being the new president. jim walsh, m.i.t. security studies, i like your style, thank you for joining us. thank you, ari. have a good night. the other big issue on the white house agenda this week, the fate of that travel ban after three federal judges ruled that it should stay blocked until a trial is held. steven mill, former aide to the new attorney general jeff sessions put out something that was a little confused about the law, this was on meet the press today. he basically argued there is no judicial supremacy in american democr
words from steven mill or who claims it was these couple of agents, they thought it was a way to cull through these applications, elizabeth hoffacre is about to say something very different today, is she not? exactly. she s going to describe how she began the process, she was there early on, and it was quickly sent to washington where the orders continually seemed to come to do what the former acting commissioner called not distressing. you know, the truth is that decisions were made as far as we can tell properly in the beginning, and then this grouping was a way to stop literally hundreds of applications, and you will hear testify that it went to washington, then a washington 48-year career veteran, carter hull, is going to testify that it went from there to high ranking people including the office of the counsel. and is the general counsel is
there is a lot of information we don t know about what went on and why the irs went on this effort to target conservative groups, tea party groups groups that had patriot or constitution in their name. there is lot to be uncovered and that is why this investigation is going on for a while. jamie: it sounds like it is expanding a bit with religious organizations claiming they were targeted. you think we ll ever get the answers we need? is there anything paul ryan the president should do in just calling for those answers? i think at this point ryan wants the justice department to conduct its criminal investigation in what is going on. he makes it very clear that the congress is going to act on its own. congress is going to conduct its investigation. remember, he was a member of the ways and means committee. he was questioning the acting commissioner steven mill other