not surprising given he was a nonpolitician but still has the same significance, vali. it s significant because steve bannon verifies for his base that all of this is true. so the president cannot just dismiss this as some kind of a democratic conspiracy against him. and when we go forward with all of the accusations against mueller and the questions of his credibility, this pushback in terms of the politics of it, as vali just said, the republican base. and the fact bannon felt that way at the time, or at least that s how he s construing it, adds credence, look, they were suspicious. these contacts should have been notified to the fbi. there was something wrong about all of this. i think that does add further fuel to the mueller investigation. juan zarate, vali nasr, great to have you both as we start the new year. that does it for a very busy day