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And in the newspapers there is this belief among the people who care about american russian relations that all this grief and all these charges against trump originated because he wanted to cooperate with russia in other words that these it originated with the enemies of what our generation larry used to call detente there is substantial truth in that i dont think its the whole truth but thats the way its viewed in russia theres one other thing ill mention to you and then ill stop among young people. I mean people lets say 18 to 35 from my point of view thats young. Theres a disillusionment because these people many of them were very proamerican and they wanted russia to become more like america but now they read every day about allegations that our intelligence agencies have been off the reservation have been manipulating american politics have been doing bad things well they grew up in a system where thats what the russian intelligence agencies do so they had thought unlike in russia

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