[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] cspan create bankamericas cablevision companies. Now on book tvs afterwards Program Historian pamela haag provides a history of guns in america. We are here today with pamela haag, author of a new book called the gutting of america, business and the making of america has gone culture. Hello, pamela, how are you . Guest hello. Im fine stephen pamela, why did you write this book and when did you decide we needed a book like this . Guest its an interesting story. Today most at people that talk about love got talk about guns love guns or hate guns and what i wrote the story i had never owned a gone or used one nor was i involved in gun control politics. Instead i came to the story through a ghost story and when i was in graduate school in new haven a friend of mine told me this story about Oliver Winchesters dollars daughterinlaw. He was known as the rightful king in the manufacture of the rifle and according to