prominent figures, many who had been previously linked to epstein, like former presidents bill clinton and donald trump, were named in the filings, though not accused of any wrongdoing. the documents stem from a civil defamation lawsuit that was settled in 2017 by virginia roberts giuffre against epstein s former confidant ghislaine maxwell. the unsealed filings contain a 2016 deposition from one of epstein s alleged victims, juwana schoberg. there was some new information that came out especially with respect to the deposition of joanna schoberg and understanding who she is in this whole epstein web. she was the primary accuser of prince andrew. many of this information was her firsthand accounts of what she had seen, observed and heard in her dealings with epstein. reporter: schoberg recalled that epstein spoke to her about bill clinton. quote, one time he said that clinton liked them young, referring to girls. when asked if clinton was a friend of epstein she said she
about him before. michael jackson. i hadn t heard that one before. i did know, i had read about stephen hawking visiting jeffrey epstein s island. because you have to remember, jeffrey epstein used scientists and academics brilliantly as sort of camouflage. it gave him a respectability with which to then mingle with powerful, rich politicians like bill clinton. you know, billionaires like leslie wexner. he was very brilliant, actually, at manipulating the polluteocracy just as much as he was able to manipulate young vulnerable girls. again, we should note former president bill clinton s name appears. he has not been accused with evidence of any wrongdoing. but what is your reaction to this 2016 deposition by joanna
that category. all right, jean casarez, thanks so much. let s bring in investigative journalist and the executive producer of the podcast and docuseries chasing ghislaine. which examines ghislaine maxwell s relationship with accused sex offender jeffrey epstein. vicky ward. good to see you again. what are your initial takeaways from going through this first batch of more than 900 pages of unsealed documents? well, jake, to be honest, i was not that surprised by the prominent names. virginia giuffre has been public for a long time about those na names. i just found it a really sickening portrait of what went on in jeffrey epstein s homes for so long and at such scale. i mean, what having visibility onto these names can o do is
really make this horrendous criminal sexual enterprise unfortunately very vivid. some of the anecdotes and some of the stories we didn t know before, there s a butler who described his role as being like a human atm, doling out cash to the women, some of them children who, you know, came in and out of the home in palm beach daily. it was really difficult to read, and to be honest that was the overwhelming impression that stuck with me. now, we should note, obviously, that someone s name appearing as an associate of jeffrey epstein does not mean definitively that that person has committed or been accused of any wrongdoing. but that said, are there any names that you were surprised to see in this first batch of documents? david copperfield, the magician. i hadn t particularly heard
end up doing jeffrey epstein s bid bidding. and it s really distressing. vicky ward, thank you so much. we ll have you back for future tranches of these names. we ll stay on top of this story. these young girls and women deserve justice. thank you again. this coming saturday will mark three years since that deadly attack at the u.s. capitol. a top lawyer for the d.c. national guard tried to report problems with the response as a whistleblower, he says. and now he says he faced retaliation for what he said. he s going to join me next.