understand what it s like in someone else s shoes. that s how i view the situation. i think that s a great thing that alice brought up. i think that s the misunderstanding. when people hear privilege they think that means i m like a richie rich and living a rich life. it just means you have a privilege that people of color don t have. in certain situations like what don was talking about, there s also systemic and institutional racism you don t even see. and so an example would be standardized tests were created by white men for white men and there s actually plenty of studies done on the history of them that they were actually made to discriminate against people of color. so that s something that you don t even realize. you don t even, as a white person, you don t even realize that the tests have been skewed in favor of you to help you get into a better college, that that s the way it started. so there s all these things that are happening. > stephanie, i m out of time. go on, steph
greatest beneficiaries of affirmative action. it shows you the contradiction when you actually really think about the policies. people will say that highway women are voting against their own interests. i m not sure if that is true because maybe the better interest to them is what they get for, from, voting for people like president trump and republicans. stephanie, you re quoted in in vox article as saying for centuries white women have invested in white supremacy because their whiteness offered them a particular kind of power that their gender does not. explain what you mean by that. as a historian i explore white women s economic effective investments in the institution of slavery and what that has led us to understand is that there s this broader historical context we need to keep in mind when we re looking at white women s voting patterns today. and as we look at their support, their overwhelming support of donald trump. and so what i meant was that we tend to think of white wom
beyond fast. so white women supported donald trump over hillary clinton in the 2016 election. he won 52% of their votes. though when you look at all women including women of color, hillary clinton had more support. she got 54%. now a wave of women, white, black and brown are sweeping into office after the 2018 election. does donald trump still have the support of a majority of white women and if so, why is that? let s talk about it. here to discuss, kirsten powers, alice stewart and stephanie jones-rogers, she is a professor of history at u.c. berkeley and the author of they were her property. hello one and all. this is an important conversation. i m sure it s going to stir up controversy in a number of
she didn t think women were oppressed. i found that interesting. is that part of this whole conversation about what privilege is it in the society that as a lightweight woman maybe a republican woman she doesn t necessarily feel oppressed? talk to me about that, stephanie. well, i think that s really interesting because in my own work what i show is that while white women may it be oppressed because of the legal constraints placed upon them by white menace women, they aren t able to exercise certain rights in the colonial and 19th century context but at the same time they re able to dominate subjugate and own enslaved people. while they re oppressed in one dimension of their lives. they are quite powerful in another very important dimension of their lives. you re talking about historically in the past. yes, so in the context of the in the current
when you see white women over and over, it s constantly happening where they re calling the police on black men who are gard fling, a little black boy in a convenience store. these kinds of things knowing full well when you call the police on a black man, that he could end up dead. and so it s a very similar kind of thinking that i don t think people see this kind of parallels that are happening in our society. and so i think that you know, all white women, not just conservative white women, need to sort of take a step back and really look at you know what kind of how they re being participants in this system and what they can do to try and change the system. stephanie, can you talk to me about this? i heard alice said something but i didn t want to interrupt her flow last time. she said that women, this is her estimation. correct me if i m wrong.