step solution that both speaker boehner and tim geithner were talking about, treasury secretary talking about this morning, how you would enforce a commission with 12 members in place, we want you to make the social security and medicare and medicaid and what do you say, even on the edge of the precipice, these guys don t make a deal. why would they make a deal down the road? you re going to need some degree of trust and people holding hands. so far, both sides, the political extremes are blocking this deal because both sides say, no, no tax cuts on the one hand and other hand, no cuts to entitlement. chris: and the triggers they were talking about, the trigger for the republicans was going to be the decoupling of the bush tax cuts and for the they wanted the trigger for the democrats to be the obama individual mandate. i mean but that s the thing, what kind of mechanisms would you have? thank you, panel. see you all next week and we ll be right back.
electing a president that is willing to get serious with the debt and deficit. chris: juan. i think the last week, the mechanism in pleas, the two step solution that both speaker boehner and tim geithner were talking about, treasury secretary talking about this morning, how you would enforce a commission with 12 members in place, we want you to make the social security and medicare and medicaid and what do you say, even on the edge of the precipice, these guys don t make a deal. why would they make a deal down the road? you re going to need some degree of trust and people holding hands. so far, both sides, the political extremes are blocking this deal because both sides say, no, no tax cuts on the one hand and other hand, no cuts to entitlement. chris: and the triggers they were talking about, the trigger for the republicans was going to be the decoupling of the bush tax cuts and for the they wanted the trigger for the democrats to be the obama individual mandate.
listen. if we ve got an economy where the going rate for labor is 10 bucks and if hungry immigrants are willing to pay $5, what happens to the other $5? economists will tell you it sticks to the fingers of immigration lawyers, the coyotes to smuggle people in, document forgeers and, of course, to the unethical employers and i have a solution to all of this. a two step solution. step one, get control of the borders with a national electronic i.d. card. step two, auction work visas. ok. well, stefan, what about the incentive issues? incentives do matter in this economy. if you incentivize illegals to get more money, you re incentiveizing them to stay here longer and, perhaps, bring more of them into the state. that may be true but we also provided enormous incentive so employers can feel like ripping off illegal workers and can get away with it. they love to hire these guys
but to be honest, president obama was consistent with us. i came to washington five times and many months and the americans are consistent in telling me and telling my president and telling all of us that the u.n. is not an option and if we need to use a veto, use a veto. geraldo: you mentioned partisan politics. do you think it is possible for a u.s. president to be even handed given the poured concrete irof the proisraeli side in domestic policy? the question so ask the israelis is not whether you are proisrael or propalestine. the question is propeace or against peace. we are trying to save the lives of my sons and. we are sick and tired are having to take our children to the cemeteries. we want to live and let live and if not today, tomorrow, the day after, there will be a two step solution. geraldo: you recognize the right of israel to exist as a