stealing nike or stealing iphone out of them and why not putting money into programs to get them off streets and get them into stem koagd classes and certification in type of educational support that is needed so they don t turn to life of crime and we have to turn to church leadsers and clergy with a leadership role in the community look i ve been in civil rights movement my entire adult life. we have got a church who, body now that seems more interested in building giant stadium size churches and being on television than getting into the community and actually doing type of what we ve seen for father in chicago, rerchgd jesse jackson other pastors around country who are trying to be in the community and be involved so it is a multifacet approach it is a nature of the way the society is. dan: i want to get to one more question but i want to note even when you control per capita liberal cities so you eliminate population density variable, the liberal cities are still at top.