well, that depends on which donald trump you ask. nbc news political reporter ali vitaly has more. are you big border people? reporter: few things are more trump than this. everybody wants the wall. who is going to pay for the wall? reporter: the promise that propelled him to the top of the republican party and into the white house in 2016 is now why trump is insisting the government stay close. i will shut down the government. reporter: at least until he gets what he wants. steel slats. we don t use the wall necessarily. steel slats. reporter: that sounds a lot different than the pitch he made over and over agan to his base. i m going to build a wall. it s going to be really a wall. it s not going to be a little wall. it s going to be a big, beautiful wall. it s got to be a real wall. not a toy wall like we have right now. and it s not a wall. it s a fence. it s ten feet tall and it s a fence. i m talking about a wall. see that ceiling up there? higher. see that ceil
necessarily. steel slats. that sounds different than the pitch he made over and over again to his base. it s going to be a big, beautiful wall. not a toy wall like we have right now. and it s not a little wall. it s a fence. i m talking about a wall. see that ceiling up there? higher. that ceiling is peanuts, folks. there s no ladder goes over that. if they ever get ip, they re saying, oh, man, how do i get down from this wall? both in terms of who is in a wall and who paid for it. and it s going to be paid for by mexico. believe me. 100%. mexico is better. that payment has since become indirect, trump saying mexico will pay through the not yet ratified trade deal we know the u.s., mexico and canada. but the white house has struggled to explain how that works. the wall will pay for itself on a monthly basis. as the president said, as we
every time the crowd started to get disinterested or march away, the president would bring out that greatest hit of the wall and he would finish by saying, and mexico is going to pay for that wall, believe me. where are we two years later? you re right. that was the move. but that wasn t what we and most importantly the voters heard it in 20178 and beyond. take look at how that has changed. into the white house in 2016 is now why trump is insisting the government stay closed. at least until he gets what he wants. steel slats. we don t use the world wall,
border security are actually starting to look like they may be evolving. remember this from the 2016 campai campaign? we are going to build a great border wall. we will build a great, great wall. we re going to build a wall, don t worry about it. oh, we ll build a wall. let s fast forward now to a week ago when he said this there is a debate over funding border security and the wall, also called so that i give them a little bit of an out, steel slats. we don t use the word wall necessarily. we re not done. here s what the president said in the oval office on christmas. i can t tell you when the government s going to be open. i can tell you it s not going to be open until we have a wall, a fence, whatever they d like to call it. i ll call it whatever they want. but it s all the same thing. cnn s suzanne malveaux is on
what can they put on the table? how do they get to the middle to negotiate to get results for the american people? you frame it perfectly. it shouldn t be hard to get to where the president wants to be. you re asking me will schumer move? i don t know that. i don t know his mind. should he move? absolutely. so where does the president want to be? if it s $5 billion for a wall, we know that s not happening. that essentially died late last week. where between there and the 1.3 billion for border security that democrats have been talking about is still very much an open question. and neither of these of the sides here are expecting much movement today. i think we continue to sit and wait. go home, i guess, garrett. cool. relax for a little bit. this is your home. very good. if there are developments i know you ll bring them to us. hans nichols, i spoke to an official who said there s no one