status overtime. this has other advantages politically because that pratchett is a pressure on democrats to maybe give him something he wants an immigration bill without actually getting rid of the program right away. you heard from paul i and another thing keep this program in place. he surprised by the republican response team and the democrat. we ve seen again and again the whole term presidency coming straight to represent the enormous gap between the leadership of the republican party and the public in general and republican voters. this is one of those issues for the gap couldn t be bigger. republican leadership listens to the business community and generally elite media. that is not whether voters are. pete: you nailed it. spot on. stephen camarota, thanks for your time. thanks for having me. pete: the rogue nation claiming