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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 01:26:00

like you just noted, he has avoided, as far as we know, any sworn testimony. so all of these other people have been called. we don t think he s given anything under oath. the only thing that s coming closest to fruition is georgia in fulton county where the history attorney sought meadows testimony in september is part of the investigation. he s the most critical figure in her investigation. he was actually physically in georgia and missed the states post election audit, join trump on that phone call with raffensperger. he s been ordered to testify, but hasn t yet. that seems to me a significant break in the dam when it happens. it is. you try very hard to get out of testifying, and the supreme court in his home state said the states to supreme court that he had to testify. we also don t know, because it s still a bit of a black box, what the justice department is doing. we know they re looking at the fake electors scheme and other things like that. but he was adjacent to if not

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 08:26:00

on that phone call with raffensperger. he s been ordered to testify, but hasn t yet. that seems to me a significant break in the dam when it happens. it is. you try very hard to get out of testifying, and the supreme court in his home state said the states to supreme court that he had to testify. we also don t know, because it s still a bit of a black box, what the justice department is doing. we know they re looking at the fake electors scheme and other things like that. but he was adjacent to if not part of. so the georgia stuff is in farm or public because there s been a fight over whether he ll testify or not, but he could be on the hook, as well, with some of these justice department inquiries. i think he probably is. but what s interesting to me and the jacks mid inquiry in terms of the grand juries that had been empanel in the sea, in the sort of twin parallel inquiries, is that as far as we know we haven t got before them, which is notable given how central he is. if he s i

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