To discuss this and more im joined by my guest Marcus Papadopoulos in london hes the editor of politics 1st magazine and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bob hes a political analyst and editor in a smi media project all right tell me cross up rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate ok lets go to marcus in london you and i want to tell marcus demon and our audience here i have big news were not to talk about the president ial debates were not to talk about the Supreme Court of the United States were not going about it joe biden is see now actually were going to talk about some real important things going on in the world today on this program i dont want to talk about same issues mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is the kin to war it is. It is an assault on the salt of these countries here and as i said in my introduction here you know its never explained why it is in the National Interest why civil
I always appreciate ok lets go to marcus in london you and i want to tell marcus demon and our audience here i have big news were not to talk about the president ial debates were not to talk about the Supreme Court of the United States were not going about it joe biden is see now actually were going to talk about some real important things going on in the world today on this program i dont want to talk about sanctions mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is the kin to war it is. It is an assault on the salt of these countries here and as i said in my introduction here you know its never explained why it is in the National Interest why civilian populations in these designated countries are repeatedly and to know if that doesnt have any political real political outcome except for on the ground misery oh hemmer well with the well once cast i would say its and indeed distracted by. 19 the American Government has continued its aggression on the Interna
That letter for me was my putting my hat in the ring and saying no matter what happens with the future i want to stand for freedom of speech and civilized behavior between people who could otherwise be a candidates thats the letter was for me you know one of the weaknesses of the letter was that it meant a lot of things to a lot of different people i didnt even know who the other people signing the letter were until after i signed it because i think highly of the people who penned it the leading being Roger Berkowitz of the head of our foundation so ive learned a lot since signing the letter but so far i i can live with that so. I want to hear your pain and what is happening with justice and freedom being presented as opposites why is there even a question of choosing between why are there other oh i dont know if im the person to ask that. They be justice and freedom. I believe that there are theres a great deal of. Justifiable anger at the system that we call the us. Democratic system
Despite missing the bill would breach international. Those are your headlines but you can find the details on much more what ill call but why yes they have with us will be a part of it but its all documented about them on this and so the question. Will come to sophie visionaries me Sophie Shevardnadze in a divided world a Unifying Force is desperately needed is our powerful enough to play this role well to talk about this im joined by stars choreographer and human rights advocate bill teacher. Bill t. Jones star cora refer receiver of the National Medal of arts and macarthur genius award human rights activists its really great to have you with us today hi bill. Hello hello so great thank you very much for inviting me were really glad to have you herrick as youre one of the rarest people that actually wanted to talk about war and talk about today and i want to ask you about just for a moment you introduce me as a human rights advocate and i take that to be the highest compliment and i d
Just to clarify sure. I want to start of with a letter unjust is an open debate which you signed and implies that people today are presented with a false choice between justice and freedom now i understand here a strong supporter of what young people in america are standing for today on the streets what did you feel why did you feel compelled to lend your voice to a letter that hot or had might seem as an anti protest it meant. Yes well i thought that if that was the chase people might read the letters certain way it might be an opportunity for dialogue. And lets face it im reading a great deal right now the great to lala just the last of the historian hannah arent and hanna arent speaks about thinking with no bannisters she thinks she talks about plurality plurality is what we call. Actually democracy how does how do many different people with many different points of view exist together. Without picking up a gun and blowing each others heads off how can they really be honest in debat