officials communicating this to governors like desantis, who are doing things that actively undermine a drive to vaccinate their state populations? the sort of moral bankruptcy of this political strategy has a practical effect on their citizen mortality. what s interesting is, states, as you know, alex, are fairly insulated. and governor desantis has surrounded himself with individuals like dr. ladapo. i use that honorific very lightly here. who essentially kowtows and puts of policy position that he knows the governor is going to agree with and the governor, i will say this the best analogy here is, what happens when the florida health system over the past two years what has happened when it s gone under stress? governor desantis has invoked the national guard because he is, ultimately, the commander of the national guard and can leverage that capability to his liking to support health
the fact that 30 of 50 state houses are in the hands of republican governors with state populations near 184 million, that s a good place to start. just look at new jersey governor chris christie. he s almost a household name, far beyond his state. look at louisiana s bobby jindal. if you ask me, you should keep your eye on indiana governor mike pence. he was sworn into the state house just five months ago, but he s quietly making waves. i packed my bags and went to indy to get a measure of the man. i grew up in a small town. we were raised in a very traditional family. church on sunday. my dad helped build a small business. we didn t have a lot, but we were taught to dream big. you were raised in a family of democrats, yes? just how liberal were the pences? i ll tell you what, we probably had differing views in our family politically, but my mom came from a strong democrat family. frankly, over the television set
did. we have no partisan agenda. we don t care about that at all. what we found, interestingly enough, is that all three dimensions that we look at, fiscal, regulatory and personal freedom, state that were freer attracted people from states that were less free. and they also grew much faster economically. isn t that sorlt of, i mean, there are other mitigating factors in terms of growth of state populations. i have to take issue with the idea that somehow someone s ability to participate in the democratic process, which is to say go to the poles and vote, doesn t have any weight compared to someone s right to smoke in public. where was this public polling that showed that reproductive rights didn t matter as much as tax rates. we are mainly looking at government policies. that restrict people s ability to dispose of their lives, property, as they see fit. so we are focused on government actions here or there. now of course we agree that all
states. so the minute you see it in your script it s like rote. there is no famous phrase in america that includes the phrase vice president of the united states. then he puts his arm around him and says once in a while i make a mistake. this is not the mistake. i want to talk more about pure politics. look at the battleground map, one of the things before this pick was made that you i know were talking about, chuck, romney has not expanded that battleground map. and now we re going to add in some of the older populations. walk us through this. it is. first of all, he hasn t extended the map. wisconsin has been teetering back and forth. i think now you definitely take it out of the sort of light blue category and put it squarely for tossup. ryan does help, particularly in the milwaukee area, which is a little more of a democratic area but he will help there. his own district is one that obama carried and all that. but three of the oldest state populations in the country are flo
hear that phrase as the next president of the united states. it s like rote. there is no famous phrase in america that includes the phrase vice president of the united states. he puts his arm around him and said, made a mistake. this is not the mistake. i want to talk more about pure politics. look at the battle ground map, one of the things before this pick was made that you i know were talking about, chuck, romney has not expanded that battleground now. and now we re going to add in where some of the older pop tigss. walk us through this. it is. first of all you have extended the map. wisconsin has been teetering back and forth. i think now you definitely take it out of the sort of light blue category and put it squarely for the ryan does help particularly in the milwaukee area which is a little more of a democratic area. he will help there. his own district is one that obama carried and all that. but three of the oldest state populations in the country are florida, iowa and