alternative, is it really? no, of course it s also an alternative, but it is an alternative with such a high cost. i m glad that there is an effort here at diplomacy. i do share rick s skepticism about what s going to come out this. it ise that kim jong-un has already won, in by getting the meeting. now the question is, if donald trump doesn t come out let me stop you for a second. this is the lunch, this is what we thought was going to happen, this is now confirmation. you see the north koreans on one side, the americans on the other. you see general kelly, circumstance of state po. the woman next to donald trump is the division chief of the state department of interpretation. let s listen to the president.